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Some of the information on this page is undocumented by Ulmer Ancestry, some of it is.
Some of the information is courtesy of Richard E. James.
(It is placed here for researcher's thoughts and reference, in hopes of finding more documentation.)
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What this information is about. Certain documents and other known records have caused researchers to suspect that his father was Jacob Ulmer. There is now only circumstantial evidence that tie Jacob to George; US census records show they lived near each other; other records show they had owned land near each other. George also named one of his sons Jacob. In 1835 Jacob Ulmer requested a pension for his service in the American Revolution. In his request he mentioned a family Bible that was lost. This Bible was where his birth date, as well as other family information had been recorded, and would help to document his age. Richard James has a Bible, and he believes it is the one Jacob mentioned in the pension request. He also has a Will, dated 1792, of George Ludwig Ulmer. I have not seen these items as of this time.
In the last 10 years I have accumulated a great deal of documents,
references and information that helps to confirm the same information
that the James family has furnished me by emails. A short story, with
references, about these three generations listed below is available
on this website |
George Werner Ulmer & Ursula
George Ludwig Ulmer & Elisabetha ??
Jacob Ulmer & Mathilda ?Baumgartner?
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Jacob Ulmer - was born July 03, 1758, Winchester, Fredrick Co., Va.. Jacob served in the American Revolutionary War. He married Mathilda (? Baumgartner ?). He died about 1836 in Lewistown, Fulton Co., Ill.. Documents, such as Jacob's Revolutionary War Pension request; a Land Grant of Dec. 1758, and a 1759 Roster for the South Carolina Militia, indicate moves that Jacob's father made from South Carolina to Winchester, VA.. These documents indicate that in July of 1758 Jacob was born in Winchester, VA.; then by Dec. 19, 1758 the family had returned to South Carolina; then later they had moved back to Virginia before 1768. An "Apprentice Record" for Jacob (listed as at age 8) in Frederick Co., VA., dated Mar. 2, 1768 indicates the move back to VA. by then. Jacob later also shows up in Tax records of Virginia.
An animated graphic, showing the "Moves of Jacob Ulmer' can be
found
For more information about Jacob, and where he lived at in Indiana,
circa 1810-1830, go
To read the transcript of Jacob's Revolutionary War Pension request
(Oct., 1835) go Mathilda (or Matilda) ?Baumgartner? - Information unknown at this time. (See editor's notes below) Children of Jacob and Mathilda are listed in different sources as; William, born 1787; George, born, 1789; Jacob, born 1794-1802. William died in 1826 in Fulton Co., IL. (Also John William Ulmer, born about 1809, is suspected as being a son of this couple). George died Jan 5, 1863, in Scott County, Indiana. He is buried in Vienna Twp., Estil Cemetery, Scott Co. Ind. His descendants are whom this website is mainly about. Jacob - I have no information, except that there was a Johann, born about 1798, that the family lost (died) at age 2 on June 5, 1800. Perhaps his full name was Johann Jacob Ulmer? It was the custom of Germans to name the next child born the same as a deceased infant. This would have some bearing on the name chose for Johann William Ulmer, born in 1809, (Both being named "John"). See article "Jacob Ulmer's Household - 1809 through 1830"
NOTE; One of the many on-going research projects (this one pertaining
to this Jacab) can be viewed
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For more understanding about George Werner Ulmer, George Ludwig
Ulmer, and Jacob Ulmer see this article as well: Click
here
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Editors Notes: I do not normally post information, that I'm aware of being conflicting or confusing, nor undocumented, on the "Ulmer Ancestry" web site. In an effort to show what we do know, and in an effort to find more information out about Jacob Ulmer and Mathilda Baumgartner, I have further explained some of the confusing points of interest on the subject in the below listed section. The Mystery of Jacob Ulmer's Wife It is not known if her name was Matilda or Mathilda. It is believed by some that Matilda Baumgartner married twice. First to John Jacob Ulmer, son of John Frederick Ulmer. John Jacob Ulmer and Matilda lived in Orangeburgh County, South Carolina and may have had a son named William Ulmer. After Jacob died she may have married the other Jacob Ulmer. However, no record of her marriage to the second Jacob, as of now, has been found. Jacob Ulmer, listed above, is the Jacob Ulmer that we know as being the father of George Ulmer, born in 1789 in Kentucky. Other confusing information about the Jacob Ulmers, is that they were both born in the same month of the same year, July of 1758. John Jacob Ulmer died Aug. 23, 1782 and is buried in South Carolina. Our Jacob Ulmer lived until about 1836 and died in Lewistown, Fulton Co., Ill. Questions; Were the two Jacob Ulmers cousins, or close related? Yes they were. Did Matilda Baumgartner know both Jacobs because they were related, and marry the other Jacob Ulmer after John Jacob Ulmer passed away? He died in 1782 (also have report of him dying in 1830). William Ulmer has been listed by some as being the son of John Jacob Ulmer and Matilda Baumgartner. But, William was not born till 1787, five years after John Jacob's death if the 1782 death date is correct. William would have been a brother to George Ulmer (born, 1789 ), the son of our Jacob Ulmer. We now know the fathers of each Jacob Ulmer, and know that they are two separate Jacob Ulmers, born so close in dates that they could almost be twin brothers. Different documents list information that indicate both Jacobs were in the Orangeburgh County, South Carolina area, at or around the same time. William also continued to be a member of my Jacob's household, up till a year or so before his death in Illinois, in 1829. He did this, even after he married and had his own children. The other possible father of him, John Jacob Ulmer, stayed in South Carolina area, and some of that family migrated into Mississippi and Alabama. This would tend to indicate William was more close related to Jacob Ulmer, than John Jacob Ulmer. There is also the possibility that there is two different Matilda (s). But this seems to be too many close coincidences to be correct. One of the more likely possible answers to this confusion is that other researchers have confused their John Jacob Ulmer, of 1758, with Jacob Ulmer of this family's (of this website) line. While trying to understand and explain the connection of Matilda Baumgartner to my Jacob, I now realize that my information may be correct. It simply may be, that others have made a mistake in connecting Matilda to their John Jacob Ulmer. They've confused their Jacob's marriage with my line, because of the same birth years of these two Jacobs. That would mean, that Matilda may have never married John Jacob Ulmer. She married Jacob Ulmer, and William, born 1787 is not a stepson, but the son of Jacob Ulmer. However, Matilda could not have married both men, in either case; I find conflicting reports on the death date of John Jacob Ulmer, and yes it is still possible that William was the son of John Jacob Ulmer; But, Matida would not have been married to both Jacob Ulmers at the same time. (DAR list John Jacob Ulmer's death date as about 1830; record #A117827.) My research is now (Nov. 2006) also indicating that Jacob Ulmer of 1758, and John Jacob Ulmer, also born in 1758, were second cousins. Jacob was the grandson of Werner Ulmer (George Werner Ulmer), John Jacob Ulmer was the son of John Frederick Ulmer. Werner Ulmer and John Frederick Ulmer were brothers. Matilda may have known both Jacobs.
There is an article I wrote, pertaining to this matter on another
page in this website. Click The research of this area, of the family's lineage, is continuing as of this date. |
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