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Editors Notes:
I do not normally post information, that
I'm aware of being conflicting or confusing, nor undocumented, on the
"Ulmer Ancestry" web site. In an effort to show what we do
know, and in an effort to find more information out about Jacob Ulmer
and Mathilda Baumgartner, I have further explained some of the
confusing points of interest on the subject in the below listed section.
The Mystery of Jacob Ulmer's Wife
It is not known if her name was Matilda or Mathilda.
It is believed by some that Matilda Baumgartner married twice. First
to John Jacob Ulmer, son of John Frederick Ulmer. John Jacob Ulmer
and Matilda lived in Orangeburgh County, South Carolina and may have
had a son named William Ulmer. After Jacob died she may have married
the other Jacob Ulmer. However, no record of her marriage to the
second Jacob, as of now, has been found.
Jacob Ulmer, listed above, is the Jacob Ulmer that we know as being
the father of George Ulmer, born in 1789 in Kentucky.
Other confusing information about the Jacob Ulmers, is that they were
both born in the same month of the same year, July of 1758. John
Jacob Ulmer died Aug. 23, 1782 and is buried in South Carolina. Our
Jacob Ulmer lived until about 1836 and died in Lewistown, Fulton Co., Ill.
Questions; Were the two Jacob Ulmers cousins, or close
related? Yes they were. Did Matilda Baumgartner know both Jacobs
because they were related, and marry the other Jacob Ulmer after John
Jacob Ulmer passed away? He died in 1782 (also have report of him
dying in 1830). William Ulmer has been listed by some as being the
son of John Jacob Ulmer and Matilda Baumgartner. But, William was not
born till 1787, five years after John Jacob's death if the 1782 death
date is correct. William would have been a brother to George Ulmer
(born, 1789 ), the son of our Jacob Ulmer. We now know the fathers of
each Jacob Ulmer, and know that they are two separate Jacob Ulmers,
born so close in dates that they could almost be twin brothers.
Different documents list information that indicate both Jacobs were
in the Orangeburgh County, South Carolina area, at or around the same time.
William also continued to be a member of my Jacob's household, up
till a year or so before his death in Illinois, in 1829. He did this,
even after he married and had his own children. The other possible
father of him, John Jacob Ulmer, stayed in South Carolina area, and
some of that family migrated into Mississippi and Alabama. This would
tend to indicate William was more close related to Jacob Ulmer, than
John Jacob Ulmer.
There is also the possibility that there is two different Matilda
(s). But this seems to be too many close coincidences to be correct.
One of the more likely possible answers to this confusion is that
other researchers have confused their John Jacob Ulmer, of 1758, with
Jacob Ulmer of this family's (of this website) line. While trying to
understand and explain the connection of Matilda Baumgartner to my
Jacob, I now realize that my information may be correct. It simply
may be, that others have made a mistake in connecting Matilda to
their John Jacob Ulmer. They've confused their Jacob's marriage with
my line, because of the same birth years of these two Jacobs. That
would mean, that Matilda may have never married John Jacob Ulmer. She
married Jacob Ulmer, and William, born 1787 is not a stepson, but the
son of Jacob Ulmer. However, Matilda could not have married both men,
in either case; I find conflicting reports on the death date of John
Jacob Ulmer, and yes it is still possible that William was the son of
John Jacob Ulmer; But, Matida would not have been married to both
Jacob Ulmers at the same time. (DAR list John Jacob Ulmer's death
date as about 1830; record #A117827.)
My research is now (Nov. 2006) also indicating that Jacob Ulmer of
1758, and John Jacob Ulmer, also born in 1758, were second cousins.
Jacob was the grandson of Werner Ulmer (George Werner Ulmer),
John Jacob Ulmer was the son of John Frederick Ulmer. Werner Ulmer
and John Frederick Ulmer were brothers. Matilda may have known both Jacobs.
There is an article I wrote, pertaining to this matter on another
page in this website. Click  here
to read it.
The research of this area, of the family's lineage, is continuing as
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