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Some of the information on this page is undocumented by Ulmer Ancestry, some of it is.

(It is placed here for researcher's thoughts and reference, in hopes of finding more documentation.)

Some information pertaining to a Bible is courtesy of Richard E. James.

What Richard's information is about;

Certain documents and other known records have caused researchers to suspect that his father was Jacob Ulmer. There is now only circumstantial evidence that tie Jacob to George; US census records show they lived near each other; other records show they had owned land near each other. George also named one of his sons Jacob.

In 1835 Jacob Ulmer requested a pension for his service in the American Revolution. In his request he mentioned a family Bible that was lost. This Bible was where his birth date, as well as other family information had been recorded, and would help to document his age. Richard James reports to having a Bible, and he believes it is the one Jacob mentioned in the pension request. He also has a Will, dated 1792, of George Ludwig Ulmer.

I have not seen these items Richard has; as of this time.

This Ulmer Lineage

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Johan Georg Ulmer & Maria
(Parents of George Werner Ulmer)

Johan Georg Ulmer - Born probably sometime around (or before) 1680 in Germany. He married a Maria.
In the year 1700 the couple lived in Neuffen, Baden- Wurttemberg, Germany. They were the parents of Georg Verner (Werner) Ulmer, born Sep. 24, 1700. Although he might have been accompanied by some of his siblings on the voyage, Georg Werner Ulmer is the first (and oldest of this Ulmer lineage) known to have emigrated to America.

George Werner Ulmer is the next direct descendant down from Georg Johan Ulmer in the outline of this Ulmer lineage.

George Werner Ulmer & Ursula
(Son of Johan Georg Ulmer)

Georg Verner Ulmer  - Born Sep. 24, 1700 in Dettingen (or Neuffen), Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany. He was the son of Johan Georg Ulmer and Maria. Dettingen and Neuffen, where George was born, are small towns about 6 miles apart from each other; and located about 25 miles southeast of Stuttgart, Germany.

Georg Verner (also known as "George Werner Ulmer" in English) was married four (4) times. Each of his first three wives died in Germany. All four of George's marriages took place in Germany; before he emigrated to America. You'll find more information about the wives of George Werner Ulmer within the paragraphs below.

QUOTE:
 (ref: The Orangeburgh Swiss-German Genealogical Society; of South Carolina.)

"In the spring of 1749, Georg Werner and Anna Maria joined a group of around 600 persons recruited for Carolina by professional emigration-agent (Neulander) Hans Jacob Riemensperger, a native of Toggenburg, Switzerland, and 1737 immigrant to Saxegotha Township, Orangeburgh Precinct SC."

Werner Ulmer petitioned the SC Council on 19 October 1749, requested "350 acres of Land in or near Saxa Gotha Township and that Mr. Commissary do pay the charges and the bounty for 5". The 350 acres indicates a family of seven. The six known family members, Georg Werner, wife Anna Maria and children Johan Friedrich, Georg Ludwig, Johannes and Maria Barbara account for all 5 bounties so the remaining child must have been under 2 years of age. One year old Georg Friedrich must have been the seventh family member. Three year old Georg Werner likely died on the journey as there is no death record for him in Neuffen.

Virtually every passenger on the ship Griffin mentioned the location "in or around Saxa Gotha" as their destination, and virtually all of them got land on Crim's Creek of the Broad River in the Dutch Fork, or on nearby creeks on either side of the Broad River. Two of them (Gottlieb Ebert and Johannes Scholler/Schuler) specified "between Four Holes & Orangeburgh" at their initial petition, implying that they had family-connections already resident near Orangeburgh. By the time that Verner Ulmer had his land surveyed on 18 July 1750, he had changed his mind and decided to settle in Orangeburgh Township. That plat identifies the location only as "Berkley Co." The adjoining plat for Jacob Strouber (also Stauber, Strober, etc.) on 3 November 1750 narrows the location to "Orangeburgh Township". When Stouber/Strouber sold it in 1760, the location was specified as Bull Swamp of Four Holes Swamp, Orangeburgh Township. Werner Ulmer did not process his survey into a grant."

END of QUOTE

From the list of marriages (shown below) you can see that it is easy to have been confused in past research done as to the correct name of George's spouse(s). The fact that he married four times, and that three of his wives were named "Anna", does not help or make the research of them easy.

NOTES:
1. From my previous research conclusions I had thought (and reported) that George's last marriage took place in South Carolina. New reports, as of August, 2009, list George as having been widowed three times and married four times; all marriages and deaths of the first three wives happened in Germany.
2. George is listed as "Verner" Ulmer on the ship's records; Ship "Griffin"; voyage of 1749. He is also listed as "Werner" (English version of Verner), in the Orangeburgh Book of Records, SC.

George first, on Nov. 12, 1727 in Neuffen,  married Anna Barbara Waltz. She was the daughter of Joseph Waltz and Ursula LNU. Anna was born Feb. 28, 1699 in Neuffen; she died Sep. 14, 1731 in Neuffen, Germany. Her death was about three weeks after she gave birth to her last child born, Ursula Barbara Ulmer.

Children of George Werner Ulmer & Anna Barbara Waltz

1. Johann Jacob ULMER, born, Nov. 7, 1728 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany; died Mar. 18, 1729 in Neuffen, Aged 4 mos, 1 week and 4 days.

2. Johann Friedrich ULMER, (widely known on the Internet as "John Frederick Ulmer") born, Mar. 3, 1730 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany. He married Maria Barbara Shuler on September 26, 1752 in Orangeburgh, S.C.

About Maria;
Maria Barbara SHULER was born January 25, 1733 in Waldmohr, Kreis (district) Kusel, in the Rheinpfalz/Zweibrücken region of Germany, to Hans Joerg (George) and Anna Margretha Schuler.

NOTE:
A large amount of information is known on this couple's lineage. There are many websites that outline the lineage of John Frederick Ulmer and Anna Barbara Shuler's descendants to be found on the Internet. It is suggested that those wanting more information do a search on any of the search engines for this information. At this time, John Frederick Ulmer's lineage is not outlined in great dept within this website. However, there are some documents and web pages that do give you information about the lineage on Ulmer Ancestry; you can use the "Search this Site" option to find those entries.

3. Ursula Barbara ULMER, born, Aug. 25, 1731 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany; died Sep. 13,  1731 in Neuffen, Germany.

George Werner Ulmer's second marriage was to Anna Maria Kirchner. They were married on May 11, 1732 in Neuffen, Germany. Anna, was the daughter of Valentin Kirchner of Balzholz, Germany (Balzholz is located about 1 mile northeast of Neuffen, Germany). Her death record reports that Anna was born in August of 1707; and that she died Nov. 7, 1734 in Neuffen, aged 27 years, 3 months.

Child of George Werner Ulmer & Anna Maria Kirchner

1. Maria Ursula ULMER, born, Jan. 18, 1733 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany; died Aug. 11, 1734 in Neuffen, Germany.

George's third marriage, on July 19, 1735 in Neuffen, Germany,  was to Ursula Pretzel; the daughter of Georg Friederich Pretzel. Her death record reports that Ursula was born abt. 1715; and died Aug. 31, 1744 in Neuffen, aged 29 years.

Children of George Werner Ulmer & Ursula Pretzel

1. Georg Ludwig ULMER, born, June 8, 1736 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany.

2. Johannes ULMER, born, May 9, 1738 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany; died Aug. 23, 1780 or 82 in South Carolina.

3. Maria Barbara ULMER, born, Nov. 5, 1740 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany. I have no record of her death or marriage dates. On March 26, 1758 she was listed as being a child; and "confirmed and admitted to the Lord's Church" in the list of records of John Giessendanner; referred to as "Book of Record, Orangeburg, S.C.". Other researchers report she married Daniel Shuler, brother of Anna Barbara Shuler that married John Frederick Ulmer. Daniel Shuler's Will, dated January 13, 1774, indicates Daniel  left the house to his wife Barbara during her widowhood; and that his estate was to be distributed to the four minor sons David, John, Daniel, and Luey (Ludwig/Lewis), and a possible unborn child. Executors were his widow Barbara and John Ulmer.

4. Ursula Catharina ULMER, born, Oct 23, 1743 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany; died Sep. 15, 1744 in Neuffen, Germany.

George's fourth (and last) marriage, on May 11, 1745 in Neuffen, was to Anna Maria Aichele. She was the daughter of Johan Friederich Aichele and Maria Magdalina. It is reported by the Orangeburgh Swiss-German Genealogical Society of South Carolina, that she was born Dec. 26, 1717 in Neuffen; and that she died in South Carolina.

Children of George Werner Ulmer & Anna Maria Aichele

1. Georg Werner ULMER, born, May 21, 1746, in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany. This Georg Werner Ulmer may have died on the journey to South Carolina.

2. Johan Bernhardt ULMER, born, May 14, 1747 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany, He died  Jan. 25, 1748 in Neuffen, aged 9 months.

3 Georg Friederich ULMER, born, Jun. 23, 1748 in Neuffen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany; might have died sometime shortly after the family arrived in South Carolina.

4. Eva Maria ULMER, born, Dec. 28, 1750 in Orangeburgh Township, S.C.

5. Verena Maria ULMER, born Aug. 29, 1752 in Orangeburgh Township, S.C.

6. Mary Catharina ULMER, born Jan. 9, 1754 in Orangeburgh Township, S.C.


The records indicate George Werner Ulmer was the father of 14 children, with 4 different wives.
George died in Orangeburgh Township, South Carolina sometime between April, 1753 and Jan., 1755.
After George died, Anna Maria (Aichele) Ulmer; (aka. "Anne Mary Ulmer") remarried. She married Barnard Hertzog on Feb 18, 1755, in Orangeburgh Township, SC.

George Werner Ulmer and Ursula Pretzel were the parents of George Ludwig Ulmer. George Ludwig Ulmer is also known as "Lewis Ulmer".

Lewis Ulmer is the next direct descendant down from George Werner Ulmer in this lineage.

George Ludwig Ulmer & Elisabetha ??

George Ludwig Ulmer (aka. Lewis Ulmer) - was born July 8, 1736 in Neuffen, Germany. Son of George Werner Ulmer and Ursula Pretzel. George Ludwig Ulmer married Elizabeth LNU. It has been reported by some researchers that George Ludwig Ulmer died in 1793. He may have been living near the Winchester, Kentucky area at the time of his death.

QUOTE:
 (ref: The Orangeburgh Swiss-German Genealogical Society; of South Carolina.)

"Prior to the voyage, 14-year-old Elizabeth Majer and 13-year-old Georg Ludwig Ulmer, b. 2 August 1736 in Neuffen, son of Georg Werner Ulmer and wife Ursula, received hurried confirmation and special communion in the sacristy on April 3, 1749. The pastor added the following blessing to their record: "The Lord accompany both with the Holy Spirit, to America, their intended country, for which account this dispensation is granted".

Georg Ludwig used the name Lewis, as did other Ludwigs in SC. He petitioned for 100 acres of land (as a single head-of-household) on 5 December 1758, specifying "near four hole Swamp." A grant and Memorial were not recorded. In the fall of 1759, Lewis Ulmar was drafted as a private in the Cherokee Expedition in the company of Capt. John Morrison, Col. John Chevillette's Battalion. Capt. Morrison's company included men resident in or very near Amelia Township, while Capt. Golsan's company included mostly men resident in Orangeburgh Township. After the paylist of Col. Chevillette was reported on 6 June 1760, there is no further reference in SC records to indicate that Lewis Ulmer was alive and/or resident in SC.

On 4 February 1767, Daniel Scholar [sic: Schuler/Shuler] petitioned for 100 acres of land previously surveyed for Lewis Ulmer, meaning that he believed the land to be unoccupied at the time. No action was taken in response to the petition. Daniel Shuler petitioned again for 100 acres on 7 April 1767. The tract was surveyed on 20 April 1767 on property "adjacent to" land that had been "granted to" Lewis Ulmore. Daniel Shuler could not have been unaware of the continuing presence or absence of Lewis Ulmer, given that Daniel's sister Barbara Shuler had married Lewis Ulmer's brother Frederick. In addition, Daniel Shuler's wife Barbara was "probably" Barbara Ulmer (see below). Lewis Ulmer had presumably died following the Cherokee Expedition, perhaps as a consequence of it. Very few SC militiamen were killed or wounded by Cherokees in that campaign, but the smallpox epidemic among the troops was a major cause of death."

END of QUOTE

Editor's note: The statement above, "Lewis Ulmer had presumably died following the Cherokee Expedition", could be because there is evidence indicating George Lewis Ulmer moved to Winchester, Fredrick Co., Va. prior to July of 1758; therefore records of him as being in Orangeburgh, S.C., at the time the report speaks of, would not be found on him in South Carolina.

Elizabeth ? - Maiden name unknown, probably was born about 1736. Her name may have been spelled  "Elisabetha". She died in 1822.

NOTES:
The information is placed here to correct past posted information, concerning who was the wife of George Ludwig Ulmer. In the past, it has been thought that George Lewis Ulmer had married an "Elisabetha Majers". We now know that he did not marry the Elisabetha Majers that was from his home town, Neuffen, Germany; the Elisabetha Majers that we are aware of as having been on the ship named the "Griffin".

There is an "Elisabetha Majers", whose parents were Joseph and Barbara Majer. That Elisabetha may have been accompanied her parents to America, and settled in South Carolina. She may have been born, December 22, 1735 in Neuffen, Germany. That Elisabetha (aka. Elizabeth) was on the Griffin in its voyage of 1749, along with George Werner Ulmer and family. But she did not marry George Ludwig Ulmer.

It's interesting that George Ludwig Ulmer may have traveled on the same ship to America, and knew the Majers family before they all made the voyage, but this is not the Elisabetha that George married. There are records showing Elisabetha Majers who arrived in American on the Griffin married Abraham Speidel. After Abraham died, she later remarried on  December 14, 1783 , to George Sebastian Spentzer. (ref: St. John’s Lutheran Church records, Charleston, SC).

George Ludwig Ulmer, along with his parents (and Elisabetha Majers) sailed to American on the ship "Griffin" out of Rotterdam, South Holland, Netherlands in the spring of 1749.

George Ludwig Ulmer and a Elisabetha ? were the parents of Jacob Ulmer, born in 1758. Jacob is the next direct connection to our Ulmer family.

Jacob Ulmer & Matilda Baumgartner?

Jacob Ulmer  - was born July 03, 1758, Winchester, Fredrick Co., Va.. Jacob served in the American Revolutionary War. He married Mathilda (? Baumgartner ?). He died about 1836 in Lewistown, Fulton Co., IL.

For more information about Jacob, and where he lived at in Indiana, circa 1810-1830, go here.

To read the transcript of Jacob's Revolutionary War Pension request (Oct., 1835) go here. (Editor's note: Jacob may have been mistaken about his birth location in his statements related to his pension request. Although there is information found that indicates he lived and was raised there, the timeline and events would seem to indicate he was most likely born in Orangeburgh, S.C.; then when Jacob was very young his family moved to the Winchester, Virginia area.)

Mathilda (or Matilda) ?Baumgartner? - Information unknown at this time. (See editor's notes below)

Children of Jacob and Mathilda are listed in different sources as; William, born 1787; George, born, 1789;  Jacob, born 1794-1802. (Also a John William Ulmer, born about 1809, is suspected as being a son of this couple).

William died in 1826 in Fulton Co., IL.

George, born 1789 in Kentucky (under research) George died Jan 5, 1863, in Scott County, Indiana. He is buried in Vienna Twp., Estil Cemetery, Scott Co. Ind. His descendants are whom this website is mainly about.

Jacob - I have very little information on this Jacob, except there was a Johann, born about 1798, that the family lost (died) at age 2 on June 5, 1800. Perhaps his full name was Johann Jacob Ulmer? It was the custom of Germans to name the next child born the same as a deceased infant. This could have some bearing on the name chose for the Johann William Ulmer, born in 1809, (Both being named "John").

Jacob Ulmer (the subject of this section, born 1758) - It most possible that Jacob Ulmer and Mathilda (? Baumgartner ?) were the parents of our family's ancestor, George Ulmer, born in 1789 in Kentucky.

NOTE; One of the many on-going projects (one pertaining to this Jacab) can be viewed  here.

An animated graphic, showing the "Moves of Jacob Ulmer' can be found   here

In the last 10 years I have accumulated a great deal of documents, references and information on the family. A short story, with references, about these three generations listed above is available on this website here.

Also;
For more understanding about George Werner Ulmer; George Ludwig Ulmer; John Frederick Ulmer; and Jacob Ulmer, see this article as well: Click here (Note; this article changed some, due to the new info as of August, 2009.)

Editors Notes:

   I do not normally post information, that I'm aware of being conflicting or confusing, nor undocumented, on the "Ulmer Ancestry" web site. In an effort to show what we do know, and in an effort to find more information out about Jacob Ulmer and Matilda Baumgartner, I have further explained some of the confusing points of interest on the subject in the below listed section.

The Mystery of Jacob Ulmer's Wife

It is not known for sure if her name was Matilda or Mathilda.

It is believed by some that Matilda Baumgartner married twice. First to John Jacob Ulmer, son of John Frederick Ulmer. John Jacob Ulmer and Matilda lived in Orangeburgh County, South Carolina and may have had a son named William Ulmer. After Jacob died she may have married the other Jacob Ulmer, believed to be the son of George Ludwig Ulmer. However, no record of her marriage to the second Jacob, as of now, has been found.

Jacob Ulmer, listed above, is the Jacob Ulmer that we know as being the father of George Ulmer, born in 1789 in Kentucky.

Other confusing information about the Jacob Ulmer(s), is that they were both born in the same month of the same year, July of 1758. However, by some researchers, John Jacob Ulmer is reported to have died Aug. 23, 1782 and is buried in South Carolina. Our Jacob Ulmer lived until about 1836 and died in Lewistown, Fulton Co., Ill.

Questions; Were the two Jacob Ulmers cousins, or close-related? Yes they were. Did Matilda Baumgartner know both Jacobs because they were related, and marry the other Jacob Ulmer after John Jacob Ulmer passed away? That is one possiblity. A John Jacob Ulmer is reported to have died in 1782 (also have report of another John Jacob Ulmer as having died in 1830). William Ulmer, I've found, has been listed by some as being the son of John Jacob Ulmer and Matilda Baumgartner. But, William was not born till 1787, five years after John Jacob's death; if the 1782 death date is for the correct Jacob? William would have been a brother to George Ulmer (born, 1789 ), the son of our Jacob Ulmer. We now know the fathers of each Jacob Ulmer, and know that they are two separate Jacob Ulmers, born so close in dates that they could almost be twin brothers. Different documents list information that indicate both Jacobs were in the Orangeburgh County, South Carolina area, at or around the same time.

A William also continued to be a member of my Jacob's household, up till a year or so before his death in Illinois, in 1829. He did this, even after he married and had his own children. The other possible father of him, John Jacob Ulmer, stayed in South Carolina area, and some of that family migrated into Mississippi and Alabama. This would tend to indicate William was more close related to my Jacob Ulmer, than John Jacob Ulmer.

There is also the possibility that there is two different Matilda (s). But this seems to be too many close coincidences to be correct. But, anything is possible, after all George Werner Ulmer married three different women, all named "Anna".

One of the more likely possible answers to this confusion is that other researchers have confused their John Jacob Ulmer, of 1758, with Jacob Ulmer of this family's (son of George Ludwig Ulmer) line. While trying to understand and explain the connection of Matilda Baumgartner to my Jacob, I now realize that my information may be correct. It simply may be, that others have made a mistake in connecting Matilda to their John Jacob Ulmer. They've confused their Jacob's marriage with my line, because of the same birth years of these two Jacobs. That would mean, that Matilda may have never married John Jacob Ulmer. She married Jacob Ulmer, and William, born 1787 is not a stepson, but the son of Jacob Ulmer. However, Matilda could not have married both men, in either case; I find conflicting reports on the death date of John Jacob Ulmer, and yes it is still possible that William was the son of John Jacob Ulmer; But, Matida would not have been married to both Jacob Ulmers at the same time. (DAR list John Jacob Ulmer's death date as about 1830; record #A117827.)

An UPDATE; There was also another Jacob Ulmer; a son of Michael Ulmer. Perhaps he is the Jacob that may be confused with the death dates of the other Jacob, son of John Frederick Ulmer or George Ludwig Ulmer.

My research results is now also indicating that Jacob Ulmer of 1758, and John Jacob Ulmer, also born in 1758, were first-cousins. Both were grandsons of George Werner Ulmer.  John Jacob Ulmer was the son of John Frederick Ulmer.

There is an article I wrote, pertaining to this matter on another page in this website. Click here to read it.

The research of this area, of the family's lineage, is continuing as of this date. 

Ulmer ancestors continued on next page

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